Any other Paleo eaters in here?

[JustJazzie]

Check out The PALEOdiet by Daniel Green.

I'll check it out! Thanks.

Sorry, not me. A Paleo diet is almost an anathema to a vegetarian. I say "almost" only because I sometimes eat fish so I'm an "almost" vegetarian

Hey now, we both eat lots of veggies. We can still be friends! ;-) recipes for side dishes still appreciated. Just no peanuts, soy, dairy, gluten, teff of buckwheat please. ;-)

Yes, we share the veggies in common. You all can have my portion of meat

As for recipes, does quinoa or amaranth have a place in the diet? How about legumes? Sweet potato? I tend to make lots of crock pot meals that involve veggies and beans and I often use Indian spices. Any of that sound good? Curried chick peas with sweet potato, for example?

unfortunately most of those are all out right now due to the high carb count. Sweet potato is allowed though! And while my son can't have it, I have yet to give up my hummus.
Funny, my friend (who has been a vegetarian since middle school) said her boss was trying to talk her into going paleo and she was considering it. I told her I didn't think you could healthily combine those diets. I think you've elaborated on how different they really are!

I'm not, sorry to say. The cost per meal for potatoes, beans, rice - which I think isn't allowed? - and wheat is just too good. But I also don't have Celiac's or lactose intolerance like those who might benefit from the diet.

I just try to balance things the best I can, although I probably eat too many pickles because vinegar is my favorite food group.

Right now I'm trying to eat more probiotic and fermented things because some antibiotics I've been taking have really messed with my digestion. It's been a bit tough since I can hardly eat yogurt without gagging.

yes, no grains or legumes allowed. Starch in low moderation. I try to NOT look at the register when we check out for groceries on this diet. We did a month of costco shopping a few weeks ago and I went weak in the knees when the total came up. But, my son has shown such improvement since switching that we couldn't ethically go back. And it's got to be cheaper than medical bills and medications for his list of ailments right?!

Pickles have been on my list of foods to learn how to make for quite some time now! Yum! Have you started brewing Kombucha yet? It's a favorite in our house!

not even sure what i would give my kid for breakfast on it? NO cereals, no eggs, is bread even allowed? what would i even make for breakfast?

Not sure where you heard eggs were out. We eat eggs 7 days a week! Eggs and meat for breakfast. Quiche. An occasional Paleo pancake for a treat. But I'm lazy in the morning so it's mostly eggs and meat.

 

[limr]

I'm not, sorry to say. The cost per meal for potatoes, beans, rice - which I think isn't allowed? - and wheat is just too good. But I also don't have Celiac's or lactose intolerance like those who might benefit from the diet.

I just try to balance things the best I can, although I probably eat too many pickles because vinegar is my favorite food group.

Right now I'm trying to eat more probiotic and fermented things because some antibiotics I've been taking have really messed with my digestion. It's been a bit tough since I can hardly eat yogurt without gagging.

You can try adding some apple cider vinegar or miso to things like soups, stews, stir fries, or even rice. Just add a tablespoon or two into the water that you're already using to make the rice.

There are also spices that aid digestion. 5 Spices that Help Heal Your Digestive System Wellness Today I would add ginger to this list as well.

A note about the turmeric: curcumin is the thing in turmeric that provides the benefit, but it doesn't absorb well. Black pepper, however, used in conjunction with turmeric will increase the absorption of the curcumin by approximately, using the technical term of course, a metric sh1t ton.

 

[otherprof]

We found out a couple months ago that my oldest son has several food intolerances and the easiest way to avoid them all was by switching to a paleo diet. We're about 6 or 7 weeks into this fiasco, and I feel like I finally have some sort of clue what I am doing! I'm just curious if there are any other people here crazy enough to eat this way. If so, I'd love to hear your favorite cookbook title or dish to make!

I'd eat a paleo but I'm a vegetarian.

 

[The_Traveler]

Science Compared Every Diet and the Winner Is Real Food - The Atlantic

Finally, in a notable blow to some interpretations of the Paleo diet, Katz and Meller wrote, "if Paleolithic eating is loosely interpreted to mean a diet based mostly on meat, no meaningful interpretation of health effects is possible." They note that the composition of most meat in today's food supply is not similar to that of mammoth meat, and that most plants available during the Stone Age are today extinct.

How to Really Eat Like a Hunter-Gatherer Why the Paleo Diet Is Half-Baked Interactive Infographic - Scientific American

The Paleo diet not only misunderstands how our own species, the organisms inside our bodies and the animals and plants we eat have evolved over the last 10,000 years, it also ignores much of the evidence about our ancestors' health during their—often brief—individual life spans (even if a minority of our Paleo ancestors made it into their 40s or beyond, many children likely died before age 15). In contrast to Grok, neither Paleo hunter–gatherers nor our more recent predecessors were sculpted Adonises immune to all disease.
A recent study in The Lancet looked for signs of atherosclerosis—arteries clogged with cholesterol and fats—in more than one hundred ancient mummies from societies of farmers, foragers and hunter–gatherers around the world, including Egypt, Peru, the southwestern U.S and the Aleutian Islands. "A common assumption is that atherosclerosis is predominately lifestyle-related, and that if modern human beings could emulate preindustrial or even preagricultural lifestyles, that atherosclerosis, or least its clinical manifestations, would be avoided," the researchers wrote. But they found evidence of probable or definite atherosclerosis in 47 of 137 mummies from each of the different geographical regions. And even if heart disease, cancer, obesity and diabetes were not as common among our predecessors, they still faced numerous threats to their health that modern sanitation and medicine have rendered negligible for people in industrialized nations, such as infestations of parasites and certain lethal bacterial and viral infections.

 

[table1349]

I prefer the see food diet. See Food.......................Eat Food.

I have always subscribed to the eat any damn thing you want diet, just don't eat the same damn thing all the time, with the exception of water. We do tend to eat a lot of home made stuff instead of processed boxed stuff, as fresh is always better.

Works well for me and pisses my doctor off tremendously. All my blood workup is right down the middle and my cholostoral last time was 112. Down from 114 last year. FYI, I'm 61.

My Dr. is 15 years younger, had a quadruple bypass and lives on cholostoral medicine. He hates seeing my blood work up every year at physical time.

That's what hard work and good eating can do for you I guess.

 

[runnah]

We do tend to eat a lot of home made stuff instead of processed boxed stuff

There it is. Just use basic raw ingredients and combine them into good healthy food. This way you have total control over fat/carb/salt/vitamin/sugar content.

I call it the runnah diet, books are for sale on amazon for $19.95.

 

[table1349]

I have always subscribed to the eat any damn thing you want diet, just don't eat the same damn thing all the time, with the exception of water.

This also has an awful lot to do with it. Eating a wide varity of foods, not just meat, or green veggies, or Pizza daily or even coffee. The only thing we constantly have on a daily basis is water as it the best drink for the body and yogurt for it's natural pro-biotic properties.

 

[Derrel]

I LOVE dinosaur meat!!! I eat it all the time!

Would you mind shipping me some of those bones for my dogs?! They'd be in heaven, and I'd save a ton on their daily bone allowance.

Sorry Jazzy...I'm very fond of the bone marrow in those dino bones, so I end up cracking them open and scooping it out and making soups with it, so the poor doggies would really not have anything good after I'm done with the bones. Besides, those teeny-tiny FexEx bags just aren't big enough...

 

[JustJazzie]

Science Compared Every Diet and the Winner Is Real Food - The Atlantic

Finally, in a notable blow to some interpretations of the Paleo diet, Katz and Meller wrote, "if Paleolithic eating is loosely interpreted to mean a diet based mostly on meat, no meaningful interpretation of health effects is possible." They note that the composition of most meat in today's food supply is not similar to that of mammoth meat, and that most plants available during the Stone Age are today extinct.

How to Really Eat Like a Hunter-Gatherer Why the Paleo Diet Is Half-Baked Interactive Infographic - Scientific American

The Paleo diet not only misunderstands how our own species, the organisms inside our bodies and the animals and plants we eat have evolved over the last 10,000 years, it also ignores much of the evidence about our ancestors' health during their—often brief—individual life spans (even if a minority of our Paleo ancestors made it into their 40s or beyond, many children likely died before age 15). In contrast to Grok, neither Paleo hunter–gatherers nor our more recent predecessors were sculpted Adonises immune to all disease.
A recent study in The Lancet looked for signs of atherosclerosis—arteries clogged with cholesterol and fats—in more than one hundred ancient mummies from societies of farmers, foragers and hunter–gatherers around the world, including Egypt, Peru, the southwestern U.S and the Aleutian Islands. "A common assumption is that atherosclerosis is predominately lifestyle-related, and that if modern human beings could emulate preindustrial or even preagricultural lifestyles, that atherosclerosis, or least its clinical manifestations, would be avoided," the researchers wrote. But they found evidence of probable or definite atherosclerosis in 47 of 137 mummies from each of the different geographical regions. And even if heart disease, cancer, obesity and diabetes were not as common among our predecessors, they still faced numerous threats to their health that modern sanitation and medicine have rendered negligible for people in industrialized nations, such as infestations of parasites and certain lethal bacterial and viral infections.

Hey now! I never claimed it was the healthiest way to eat. Or that everyone should do it. Only that it is the easiest way for me to avoid the foods that my son tested intolerant to.

 

[sm4him]

No grains, no legumes, NO DAIRY???? No thank you! I like my cheese and milk and ice cream too much! And my bread.

I DO sometimes eat like a caveman though--but only when I'm especially hungry and can't find a fork.

I can absolutely understand why those experiencing health issues related to their diet might want to try this and so many of the other "theme" diets out there (like the Raw diet, my niece and her husband do that--really?? Nothing cooked at all? Um, just no) but they are not for me. I want to enjoy the foods I enjoy--if one or more of them begin to pose a health issue for me, then I will eliminate those specific foods from my diet.

I have always subscribed to the eat any damn thing you want diet, just don't eat the same damn thing all the time, with the exception of water.

^THIS. My dietary motto has always been the same as my grandmother's was--Eat (or drink) anything you want, but do it in moderation.
She lived to be 98, so it seemed to work well for her.

 

[vintagesnaps]

This was a new one to me since I'm not working with kids and families these days. When I looked it up I found one of the same articles Lew posted.

There seems to be no medical or scientific basis to the paleo diet. I checked quick in JAMA, found nothing. The only apparently good thing about it is that it restricts or eliminates processed foods. For an adult it seems like this diet may or may not necessarily be harmful or helpful compared to any other diet; for a child it seems inconsistent with other nutritional guidelines with nothing to support this being used with children.
Paleo diet What is it and why is it so popular - Mayo Clinic

The most concerning thing I read was when I noticed a number of articles out of Australia about a paleo cookbook for babies and toddlers that was going to be published. Their country's national health dept. released information that the meals in the cookbook could be dangerous or possibly even lethal for babies. The publisher pulled the plug on it.

I also looked up Loren Cordain who developed the paleo diet. He is not a medical doctor. His degrees are in health and phys. ed. and he used to run a fitness center of some sort on the college campus where he taught.

If a child has food allergies I'd probably ask the pediatrician about a referral to a dietician or nutritionist to help in planning meals. I've worked with kids who were on specialized diets that were medically supervised and it can be challenging for families with a child with dietary needs or restrictions.

 

[JustJazzie]

@vintagesnaps , he is under the care of a medical professional and we are tailoring his diet to his specifications. Thank you for your concern.

 

[vintagesnaps]

I'm just being straightforward about what I'm finding. I don't think there's anything wrong with trying something and maybe getting ideas for meals and recipes, etc. I'm just not reading anything very positive about it. I'd rather be able to say something more positive but I'm not finding it.

I checked our local children's hospital website and only found one article that mentions it and says the research is basically none. I read too that there have only been 5 studies done, with a relatively small number of people. I wouldn't expect that health care professionals would be likely to recommend it based on the lack of medical evidence to support it.

Paleo Diet -- What You Need to Know -- US News Best Diets

From Paleo To Plant-Based New Report Ranks Top Diets Of 2015 The Salt NPR

 

[table1349]

We enjoyed a paleo/ice age diet last night. Grilled raw meat until cooked on buns made of grain. Vegitable and fruit products on it including items made from tomatos, mustard seeds, cucumbers, greens, and bulbs. (Katcup, mustard, pickles, lettuce and onions.)

Mmmmmm-mmmmmmmm good.

 

[robbins.photo]

We enjoyed a paleo/ice age diet last night. Grilled raw meat until cooked on buns made of grain. Vegitable and fruit products on it including items made from tomatos, mustard seeds, cucumbers, greens, and bulbs. (Katcup, mustard, pickles, lettuce and onions.)

Mmmmmm-mmmmmmmm good.

Did you kill it yourself with your bare hands, or a rock?

Huh. Right. Thought not. Slackers.

Lol