Lessons Forgotten (???) From the 1918 Pandemic

[K9Kirk]

I will simply post this most interesting article on the pandemic of 1918 and let everyone decide for themselves if they think that the "already proven" and correct course of action in a pandemic should be ignored and ask themselves why it has been ignored throughout this Covid-19 pandemic. This truly sickens me what's going on.

Coronavirus and the Sun: a Lesson from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic

 

[zombiesniper]

These lessons haven't been forgotten by those of us in the CBRN (Chemical Biological Radiological and Nuclear) community or the medical field.

Most of it boils down to the fact that in todays society a great number of people THINK they know better. Imagine telling someone today that fresh air and sun will help. Even though UV light is a proven anti viral treatment, people would rather believe the crap that their friend shared on InstaSnapFace.

The open air part for some countries would kill more than it would have helped in the last couple of months. Yes the air and sun would help but -30 would counteract any benefit. Now that we're into warmer weather (or if you live in a moderate climate) I agree that outdoor treatments should be looked into.
This of course will bring out the anti lockdown crowd out with "Why can the sick go out and I can't?" type of whining.

In short. Today you can't please anyone. I personally say let the whiners out....however if they infect someone, charge them with murder.

 

[vintagesnaps]

Right at the top it says 'anyone' can publish on Medium, so I'd take it with a big grain of salt. Not that some fresh air and sunshine might not be a bad idea for people in general (except for allergy season! lol along with the middle of winter depending on where you live). But every so often in the news there's a story about a study, which is only one study; it's necessary to look at the body of research.

This guy believes in this, so of course used citations to articles that support it. He did cite professional journal articles so there may be something to it, but I doubt it's the be all. It wouldn't have been practical everywhere in March or even April in cold and rain, etc.

My mom said it reminded her of polio, and they had to keep kids out of public swimming pools, etc. It wasn't of course this restrictive. But once there was a vaccine that was the end of it. Now we've seen childhood diseases that were eradicated (or nearly completely) return, since there have been people not getting their kids vaccinated because of misinformation online. I hope once there's a vaccine for this that everyone will get one.

 

[vintagesnaps]

And... of course I got curious, and can't find who's doing that site or where they are. I wondered because of words spelled with an s instead of a z. All I could find was California (and mention of San Francisco) and European Union (address in Ireland) so I don't know about the rest of us! lol

No address, no names... to be a registered business they have to have a street address. When they make it this hard to find I have to wonder. And a legit publication pays writers, this one seems to be another of many that will take whatever someone types on a keyboard.

Sorry but I've just seen this type website too often to find them reliable or legit.

 

[Derrel]

In the footnotes, the author cites himself, and an article he authored in 1997.

 

[Jeff15]

Don't forget
The Black Death, also known as the Pestilence and the Plague, was the most fatal pandemic recorded in human history, resulting in the deaths of up to 75–200 million people in Eurasia and North Africa, peaking in Europe from 1347 to 1351

 

[terri]

Folks, the moderators aren't here to monitor discussions on the Covid-19 pandemic. That said, let's not let TPF turn into a site where questionable or unproven statements are made about it. Everything can turn up on Internet searches.

I agree with the others that articles such as the one linked to here have about zero credibility. Please, let's be careful with the information we share.

Thanks!

 

[K9Kirk]

My apologies for that, I honestly did not see that at the top of the page but I did research Doctor Richard Hobday and he is a real person and doctor. He can be found easily on the internet (as mentioned) along with much more of the same information from other credible sources that 'back up' the article, it's not bs, a little quick research will tell you that. My job in the military was 54 E, NBC (Nuclear Biological Chemical) Specialist and everything in that article makes perfect sense and that's why I put it up. I figured everyone would see the logic in it also but I was wrong.

 

[Derrel]

Kind of strange that the man does not use the title of Doctor in his writings about a health-related topic.

 

[Derrel]

 

[otherprof]

I will simply post this most interesting article on the pandemic of 1918 and let everyone decide for themselves if they think that the "already proven" and correct course of action in a pandemic should be ignored and ask themselves why it has been ignored throughout this Covid-19 pandemic. This truly sickens me what's going on.




Coronavirus and the Sun: a Lesson from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic

The author is a “certified engineer “ with no medical credentials . The publisher of his book is Findhorn Press. They publish self-help books, cards, CD’s, spiritual guides, and books on alternative medicine. There is no peer review for his work. Here is a description of their business.

By the way, I got a call from a friend whose house is being rebuilt after a fire. Another friend, an engineer, told him he thought the material the contractor was using for walls on the enclosed porch was not right because of moisture issues. He wanted to know what I thought. I told him it was interesting that he wanted a second opinion about types of Sheetrock from a philosopher. Somehow this seems very relevant.





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[K9Kirk]

Ok, I'm not arguing the guys legitimacy, my whole point was about what information he put out and it is legit, it's has been documented and if anyone thinks it's not all they need do is search the web but I'm not doing it for anyone, not falling for that trap, I learned my lesson, lol. I'm done here, thanks for the replies.

 

[vintagesnaps]

He said sunlight can heal breast cancer, heart disease, ms, etc.?? If he said that I wouldn't go by what this guy says.

 

[Derrel]

He said sunlight can heal breast cancer, heart disease, ms, etc.?? If he said that I wouldn't go by what this guy says.

But, but, but...it's on the internet! According to this certified engineer, sunlight can also ,_prevent_ those maladies....the dude wrote a book about it!

Doing a Google search and finding something is not proving anything...except that a claim has been published. A good example is the idea that in the late 18th century the pit bull terrier was a "nanny dog"in the UK, comonly placed with children to guard over them. This spurious claim was first written by the first importer of the breed to the United States back in 1973. She published a BS article... and her false claim has gained a lot of traction since 1973. The Pitbull Nutters website has a complete documentation on the way deliberate falsehoods have been published by Pitbull aficionados and breeders... if you take a falsehood and repeat it often enough, it will soon become a "truth", easily proven by a web search.

 

[K9Kirk]

Natural light, fresh air could keep coronavirus out of workplaces, scientists suggest
https://msystems.asm.org/content/5/2/e00245-20

This is a section from the msystems article: (22). Since most humans spend >90% of their daily lives inside the BE, it is essential to understand the potential transmission dynamics of COVID-19 within the BE ecosystem and the human behavior, spatial dynamics, and building operational factors that potentially promote and mitigate the spread and transmission of COVID-19.

If you still want to believe what you wish that's your right. Everyone be well.