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I experimented with out of focus shots in a couple frames at the car show. I originally thought that the older people would be ideal but was surprised that the young skin appealed to me more emotionally. So, with that logic out the window, I have a couple questions for the experienced photogs. I often painted with an obscured focus (mainly because I worked in wax, encuastic, built layers for coke bottle appearance, per Gary A.). I was trying to figure out a standard approach to attack the viewer. My intuition is to live in the moment and let the chips fall. I have an issue with that.

A. Young skin
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B. Old skin
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1. Is having a shot not focused correctly always ruin a shot? If not, what is your reason?

2. Ways of identifying this look, when to use it. Better methods of achievement.

3. Just give up because the college professor doesn't teach it.
 
1. Is having a shot not focused correctly always ruin a shot? If not, what is your reason?
Per whose standard is it ruined???? If an alien space ship landed in front of your house and you were the only one who got a picture of it would it really matter if the focus was sharp?

2. Ways of identifying this look, when to use it. Better methods of achievement.
I'm not 100% sure of what you're saying when you talk of intentional out of focus. To me if I pick a wider aperture to shorten my DOF, that's an intentional choice. If I move inside the minimum focus distance on my lens that's intentional. (I've actually done this by stacking flowers behind each other then shoving the lens up close.) Creates some cool abstract effects) Is this what you're referring to or are you talking intentionally pulling the focus off.

3. Just give up because the college professor doesn't teach it.
I rarely follow what I learned in college as most times they have very limited view of creativity.

 
Look up Julia Margaret Cameron. In an era where the ability of the camera to capture *precision* was the unquestioned goal of photography she questioned. A lot of her portraits refuse to present absolute clarity and so almost force you to see beyond and really add that yourself, which of course must come from your own human experience. She wasn't the first to realise that photographs are not absolute captures of the real, but she was one of the first to present an etherial view in her prints rather than a realistic one.
 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept - Henri Cartier-Bresson

I always poo-pooed this as an excuse for photogs who couldn't manual focus. As time marches on, I realized that it is easier to have a successful image which is sharp than unsharp.

JC: Is there a difference to you between blur (movement) and OOF?
 
They look fine to me although I think my eyesight is not what it was......:)
 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept - Henri Cartier-Bresson

I always poo-pooed this as an excuse for photogs who couldn't manual focus. As time marches on, I realized that it is easier to have a successful image which is sharp than unsharp.

JC: Is there a difference to you between blur (movement) and OOF?
Yes sir. I understand that shutter speed and camera stability can alter an image with a feeling of movement. An out of focus image is what alludes me. I mean, to intentionally let go of technical aspects and possibly go beyond what is traditional. I took a chance with these two images as an experiment. I like the girl one as it evoked time. The older vet evoked a poorly executed shot.
 
Interesting, and I like the shot of the girl. I have a recent shot of my dad where I missed focus, but I like it for the same reason.
Or, maybe I just like it because it is my dad.

Either way, I'm interested in the idea of intentional OOF. Impressionistic with landscapes and such, but for portraits...like soft-focus but different?

oof dad-1.webp
 
A little more detailed reply, well a lot longer if not actually more detailed. ;);););)

I hope that it's some help.

We don't always see clearly as photographers because we are always looking for the absolute, that there is an action and an affect associated with it. But this is not entirely true.

I always edit for print and have a little gallery of around 6 shots in my hall that I rotate when the mood takes me. It's mainly for me to see and gain a more dispassionate look than to show, but it's interesting to gauge people's reactions. What is universally true is that photographs do not show an absolute or *what I saw*, what people tend to see is what the images remind them of. Things and experiences in their own memory.

If we take a portrait and show it in absolute sharpness then we show the individual. But people do not understand the random individual and so interpret the expressions in line with the expressions they've learnt through people they do know. When they do know the individual, can identify with the expression and recognise the expression to be common to that person then you get comments like, "that's caught them well" or "they look really natural."

The problem with taking absolute images is that the expressions that are unique to one person do not readily transfer, or are able to be read, by someone who doesn't know them. A technique artists use is to *de-familiarise*. In doing so it actually has the opposite effect to that you may think; it doesn't make the image more ambiguous but clearer because it allows the artist to speak in a language that's less ambiguous. What it also does is counter the viewer's natural tendency to just glance and jump to conclusion, see in an image something that they already know and is familiar to them. What they have to do is look a little closer to extract a meaning or discover how they relate to it. In doing this the artist can generally reveal the things you don't normally see, show you something different.

What I see in many images on forums is photographers demonstrating their ability to de-familiarise, make the image look different. But in doing it they are really only demonstrating that they haven't observed or understood the subject because they reveal nothing new, nothing other than their ability not to represent. In fact much of it relies on viewers *not* looking and *not* seeing it correctly, jumping to assumption based on their experience because the image reveals nothing and makes little sense on it's own.

You can use soft focus to much the same effect. Cameron's portraits of older men show not individual lines of age and experience but more generic ones and so makes her interpretation, or what see sees, clearer to the viewer. With the young we see the skin as softer so again your expression is clearer. But it is not an absolute action that produces and absolute effect, soft focus doesn't always connect your viewer with emotion *x*, we still rely on the viewer interpreting it and we still need to be able to show something that they didn't necessarily notice. We still need to observe the subject and see in it something we wish to show, not just point the camera and add an effect which the viewer will *see* as emotion *x*.

I'm not sure I've got this right, but it is something I have seen in other portraits. It is an observation shown to me and resides in most children's faces because they are not symmetrical, (hint - cover the right side of the face and view only the left then cover the right side, what do you see?). Hopefully it's an example of revealing observation:

ex-1.webp
 
There are no rules in photography, only standards. When you understand why you are intentionally breaking one of these standards is when it should be applied.

Intentionally OOF:





 
There are no rules in photography, only standards. When you understand why you are intentionally breaking one of these standards is when it should be applied.

Intentionally OOF:





To me, those are selectively Blurry as opposed to OOF, as there is a selective area/point of sharpness in each image. OOF, to me is a global effect.
 
There are no rules in photography, only standards. When you understand why you are intentionally breaking one of these standards is when it should be applied.

Intentionally OOF:





To me, those are selectively Blurry as opposed to OOF, as there is a selective area/point of sharpness in each image. OOF, to me is a global effect.

Yeah that is true
 

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