TPF Con 2005! Joshua Tree National Park

[voodoocat]

That's right folks. We are planning another photo excursion in the Southwest. We have decided on Joshua Tree March 18-21. Come meet your friendly TPF moderators and members and shoot some beautiful scenery. There may even bee some beer there
:cheers:

Joshua Tree is a unique ecosystem where two deserts meet at about 3000 ft above sea level. On the East side of the park below 3k feet is the Colorado Desert with Creosote bush, Ocotillo (http://redrockexposure.com/superstitions/ocotillosuperstition.jpg) and Cholla (http://redrockexposure.com/chollasuperstition.jpg). The west side of the park is the Mojave desert which is above 3k feet. Cooler temperatures and greater precipitation nurture the Joshua Tree (http://www4.hmc.edu:8001/humanities/beckman/WebPhotos/gallery3/JoshuaTree&ShackA.jpg) which is actually a member of the Lily family. Beginning in February and continuing through June, the desert blooms. We have decided on March to have the best chance of finding the most color.

I believe some are going to camp, some may want to stay in hotel rooms. So let's discuss and see who is interested.

[MDowdey]

Count me in. im there.


md

[photogoddess]

I'm in!

[Corry]

Damn! I wish I was in!

[MDowdey]

Damn! I wish I was in!

if im in, then there is no excuse for someone who is closer than me to not be in.....
man up everyone....stop wussing out. :lol:

md

[Corry]

It's called NO MONEY!!!!!

[MDowdey]

It's called NO MONEY!!!!!

its cheap!!

md

[Corry]

Plus I've never really travelled very far by myself and I don't think I could get my boyfriend to go...but I'd really like to go so I'll talk to him tommorrow and see what I can do!

[malachite]

Voodoo prolly needs a ride so I guess I'm going :wink:

I think I'll buy a new truck for the occasion too :cheer:

[Corry]

MD, you said it's cheap..are you flying? HOW cheap????

[terri]

I'm a definite maybe. That's all you can expect from an unemployed manager. :wink: Way too soon for me to commit.

[photogoddess]

MD, you said it's cheap..are you flying? HOW cheap????

206 round trip for Matt. Voods found him a great rate on http://quickfares.bestfares.com/

[carlita]

if only this could happen AFTER i graduate... :-(

[voodoocat]

Shooting quite a bit of desert very similar to Joshua Tree I really endorse this trip. Heck you might even get a tip or 2 from Malachite or I. I took the Ocotillo and Cholla shots... the other i found...

I'm in the poor gang too folks. With the new kid coming in two weeks. See what mrscat really has to put up with ;) But camping is cheap. Group rates apply.

[fadingaway1986]

wish i could come... but i dont really have a few thousand to get there :(

Oh well - take lots of photos for me! (like there was any need to say that)

[Corry]

With the new kid coming in two weeks.
TWO WEEKS!!! Heh heh...so if I end up getting to come, you'll have a wallet full of voodookitten pics to show us, right????

[Corry]

Ok...now I need to do some research...what town would I be flying to? What airport?

[photogoddess]

Probably LAX, Ontario, John Wayne or Long Beach.

[Corry]

Ok, I wanna go SOOO BAD NOW!!!! So tonight when my boyfriend comes over, and I do my damndest to get him to agree to go (cuz there is NO WAY I'm going alone!) and he tells me no, I'm gonna be sooo crushed! I'll try anyway.

[voodoocat]

Check your PM core.

[MDowdey]

Ok, I wanna go SOOO BAD NOW!!!! So tonight when my boyfriend comes over, and I do my damndest to get him to agree to go (cuz there is NO WAY I'm going alone!) and he tells me no, I'm gonna be sooo crushed! I'll try anyway.


corry, you wont regret it. have you seen pictures of Joshua Tree?


d

[Corry]

Thanks Voodoo. I have already been doing a bunch of research on it. Yes, Md, I've seen the pics. As it is I've been drooling over Voodoo and Malachite's dessert pics for a while now! I'm gonna see what I can do. I'll talk to my bf tonight. I'll tell him he's not allowed to say no right away..he has to think about it. I'll build my case. I'll do as much research as I can to get us the trip as cheap as possible. (he's a bit...shall I say...thrifty). So...I'll let y'all know how it goes! I REALLY WANT TO GO!!!

[voodoocat]

Well research all you want.. but when you're ready come to me... i will find you the best fare... ;)

[photogoddess]

Ok, I wanna go SOOO BAD NOW!!!! So tonight when my boyfriend comes over, and I do my damndest to get him to agree to go (cuz there is NO WAY I'm going alone!) and he tells me no, I'm gonna be sooo crushed! I'll try anyway.

You won't be alone. You'll be with us! :D

[binfordtools]

I would love to go,but need to check cash flow around march.

[photogoddess]

[quote="binfordtools"]I would love to go,but need to check cash flow around march.[/quote

You know you got a ride. ;)

[binfordtools]

Yep,In the BACK :lol:

[Luminosity]

Hopefully I'll be working in Canada next year butttttt I'll be loitering around the States before I head to CanuckLand :lol:

Oh ... but its in March ... *thinks* ...
Might JUST make it.

[aggiezach]

Hmm, If my spring break falls on those dates, Count me in! $270 round trip! Thats hard to beat! :D

[Big Mike]

Hopefully I'll be working in Canada next year butttttt I'll be loitering around the States before I head to CanuckLand :lol:

Oh ... but its in March ... *thinks* ...
Might JUST make it.

Lumi....you're coming to Canada? Where abouts?

[Luminosity]

If all goes to plan , Toronto darl :thumbsup:

[Big Mike]

Toronto???....booooo...don't go there...Toronto sucks. Come out west where it's beautiful.

There are lots of jobs and I have rooms for rent, cheap.

[Luminosity]

I heard the western part of Canada is the best part of it .....

I know someone in Toronto , hence why I was gonna just head there...
Basically I'll go where I can get work. Gotta apply for the work visa in January... i'ma bit nervous about it coz it aint gonna be an easy task I'm suspectin lol.
Will definately keep what you said in mind Mike ! :sillysmi:

[Corry]

So...you are moving to canada for good?

[Luminosity]

For about a year Core :)...or thereabouts.

I would love to come to this TPF meet-up ...so if I make it there Core , YOU better get ya cute butt there too girl ;) !

Voods where exactly IS this place ?

[Corry]

Southern California, near...Palm Springs, I think it is?

[Chase]

Yep! Fly into Ontario, CA ;)

I'll end up renting a BUS at this rate! lol

[voodoocat]

Yep! Fly into Ontario, CA ;)

I'll end up renting a BUS at this rate! lol
You'll need the short bus though :LOL:

[Chase]

I thought you were driving in?

Without you, no need for the short bus :P

[Jeff Canes]

maybe if i have job and if it 's not the week of FSU or UF/Miami game

[Corry]

Ok...I still haven't asked Erik if he'll go with me (hopefully I will ask him tommorrow), but....I'm trying my best to work up the courage to go on my own if he says no. So...keep them encouraging words coming!!! Tell me that it's NOT that scary travelling somewhere far away and unfamilir all alone on a plane for the first time ever.....

[aggiezach]

So if I book a flight to Ontario CA. What time should I try to get there? I've got a couple of choices ranging from 5am to about 4 pm on the 18th? Are we really gonna try to get a bus, cause that'd be awesome! :D

[John E.]

Toronto???....booooo...don't go there...Toronto sucks. Come out west where it's beautiful.

There are lots of jobs and I have rooms for rent, cheap.

Luminosity, most of the people in Canada hate cough jealous cough Toronto :wink:

I lived their for twenty years and traveled extensively through Canada because of my work at the time. I almost got the crap beat out of me cause I said I was from Toronto :shock:

Toronto is truely a beautifull city. Remeber to bring a warm coat and long Johns, winter is very damp.

[MDowdey]

Ok...I still haven't asked Erik if he'll go with me (hopefully I will ask him tommorrow), but....I'm trying my best to work up the courage to go on my own if he says no. So...keep them encouraging words coming!!! Tell me that it's NOT that scary travelling somewhere far away and unfamilir all alone on a plane for the first time ever.....

hey listen, you dont really know me outside of here, but im doing the same thing. and i have a morbid fear of flying. you just gotta take a chance!!! do it before its too late and you cant get away so easily.


md

[MDowdey]

Ok...I still haven't asked Erik if he'll go with me (hopefully I will ask him tommorrow), but....I'm trying my best to work up the courage to go on my own if he says no. So...keep them encouraging words coming!!! Tell me that it's NOT that scary travelling somewhere far away and unfamilir all alone on a plane for the first time ever.....

hey listen, you dont really know me outside of here, but im doing the same thing. and i have a morbid fear of flying. you just gotta take a chance!!! do it before its too late and you cant get away so easily.


md

[steve817]

hey listen, you dont really know me outside of here, but im doing the same thing. and i have a morbid fear of flying.
md


As do I but I found a cure..it's called booze.

[MDowdey]

hey listen, you dont really know me outside of here, but im doing the same thing. and i have a morbid fear of flying.
md


As do I but I found a cure..it's called booze.


oh i would do the same if my liver could handle it. :lol:


md

[Corry]

Ok...I still haven't asked Erik if he'll go with me (hopefully I will ask him tommorrow), but....I'm trying my best to work up the courage to go on my own if he says no. So...keep them encouraging words coming!!! Tell me that it's NOT that scary travelling somewhere far away and unfamilir all alone on a plane for the first time ever.....

hey listen, you dont really know me outside of here, but im doing the same thing. and i have a morbid fear of flying. you just gotta take a chance!!! do it before its too late and you cant get away so easily.


md

But the thing is, the furthest I've EVER traveled on my own was yo a town called Joliet, a bit outside of Chicago. It's 2 hours away, and so easy to get to I only had to make two three turns once I got on the interstate outside my town...one to get onto another interstate, one was my Joliet exit, and one to turn in to Walgreens (I was there for work!)

[MDowdey]

Ok...I still haven't asked Erik if he'll go with me (hopefully I will ask him tommorrow), but....I'm trying my best to work up the courage to go on my own if he says no. So...keep them encouraging words coming!!! Tell me that it's NOT that scary travelling somewhere far away and unfamilir all alone on a plane for the first time ever.....

hey listen, you dont really know me outside of here, but im doing the same thing. and i have a morbid fear of flying. you just gotta take a chance!!! do it before its too late and you cant get away so easily.


md

But the thing is, the furthest I've EVER traveled on my own was yo a town called Joliet, a bit outside of Chicago. It's 2 hours away, and so easy to get to I only had to make two three turns once I got on the interstate outside my town...one to get onto another interstate, one was my Joliet exit, and one to turn in to Walgreens (I was there for work!)

sweetie, ive never traveled anywhere by myself at all. so dont be afraid!!! i wanna see some of this beautiful earth before its gone for good.

md

[malachite]

Corry my dear, you need to break down and decide to go buck wild. Pack your bags in haste, tie up your shoes and say "I'm outta here, dunno what's gonna happen but I'll call when I get a chance".

Just go with the flow and appreciate the now and not the 'what if'.

Granted all people are different when it comes to these things but how will ever know if you don't like to travel if you don't try it first? And it's not like you're going out on your own. You'll atleast be with other people you've had a basic introduction too and they actually want you there.

So quit looking for excuses, tell your boyfriend "Hey, guess where I'm going in March?" and get yourself out here. It'll make you feel good, trust us :twisted:

[Corry]

I wanna see it too!!! Thankfully you guys all proposed this trip early enough that I have plenty of time to do tons of research on every little thing...If I know what to expect, it's not as scary!

[malachite]

If I know what to expect, it's not as scary!
But then it's not us fun either. Toss that itinerary and travel into the abyss of the unknown.

OK, maybe that's not the best thing for a first time travler so we'll allow you ONE travel guide :wink:

[Corry]

Trust me, It'll still be fun...my problem is that I'm afraid I'll miss my plane or get lost or something...or do something wrong, with all the tight security on planes and stuff. I'm almost afraid to pack a hairbrush as it might be viewed as a lethal weapon. I just want to be an informed traveler...I want things to go smoothly.

[Chase]

If there end up being a small group of people that fly into Ontario, we'll have to try to arrange arrival times to be as close as possible. We could probably chip in and rent a full-size van if enough people plan on coming in. Either that, or rent a couple of SUVs or something.

[Alison]

Corry, don't worry, you'll be great! Last year I moved from MN to NH all by myself in my little 91 Geo Prizm. It took 3 days, I didn't know where I was going to stay each night, I just drove until dinner time and found a place. It was the best trip I've ever taken. Prior to that I had never driven more than a few hours by myself, and I am 25!

I am going to do my best to be there in March, it will be a fabulous trip. The only thing that could keep me away is coming up with the money. Traveling is a great adventure. Sure, it's scary to go by yourself, but flying is pretty easy. I've flown quite a bit since 9/11 and there's been no problems. Occasionally they will do a search of my bags but otherwise it's been very smooth. Just think of how much fun it will be to actually be there and the getting there doesn't seem so bad anymore.

[Corry]

If there end up being a small group of people that fly into Ontario, we'll have to try to arrange arrival times to be as close as possible. We could probably chip in and rent a full-size van if enough people plan on coming in. Either that, or rent a couple of SUVs or something.

Wouldn't it be closer to Joshua Tree to fly into LA or Palm Springs???

[Chase]

Ontario airport is actually on the eastern edge of Los Angeles :) The main LA airport (LAX) is about an hour further away.

I'm not sure what kind of flight service they have for Palm Springs....

[Corry]

Never mind....I just noticed when I went to Yahoo Maps and entered Ontario, CA it showed me the state, but said the city cannot be found..so the star was in the middle of the state, not where the town should be.

[voodoocat]

Oh here's some more cholla to drool over ;)

http://redrockexposure.com/gallery/albums/userpics/08070403.jpg

[photogoddess]

Ok...I still haven't asked Erik if he'll go with me (hopefully I will ask him tommorrow), but....I'm trying my best to work up the courage to go on my own if he says no. So...keep them encouraging words coming!!! Tell me that it's NOT that scary travelling somewhere far away and unfamilir all alone on a plane for the first time ever.....

hey listen, you dont really know me outside of here, but im doing the same thing. and i have a morbid fear of flying. you just gotta take a chance!!! do it before its too late and you cant get away so easily.


md

But the thing is, the furthest I've EVER traveled on my own was yo a town called Joliet, a bit outside of Chicago. It's 2 hours away, and so easy to get to I only had to make two three turns once I got on the interstate outside my town...one to get onto another interstate, one was my Joliet exit, and one to turn in to Walgreens (I was there for work!)

sweetie, ive never traveled anywhere by myself at all. so dont be afraid!!! i wanna see some of this beautiful earth before its gone for good.

md

Corry - Until last April, I had never been anywhere alone. While I had some reservations about traveling alone, I realized that I was never going to see Kentucky Bluegrass unless I just went. My family wasn't interested in going so I signed up for a photo workshop and booked my flight before I could lose my nerve. I arrived several days early and had a blast. I was up early every day (and I'm not a morning person) and just wandered around taking pictures every day and night until the workshop started. I did what I wanted, ate where I wanted and stopped to enjoy the scenery whenever I wanted. I missed my family but I realized that doing something like this for myself once in a while was so good for my soul. Don't let your fears make you miss out on some wonderful things in life. Now, don't you have some tickets to order??? :P

[Corry]

Yeah...the financial situation is really the only thing holding me back now, cuz I do really want to go. I know I can do it fairly cheap, but due to my boss cutting back my hours all last year (hence the reason I obtained a 3rd job 3 mos ago) I got pretty far behind in a lot of my bills. I'm caught up on pretty much all of them 'cept for my rent, which is the biggest. And unfortunatly, my boyfriend has a good point when he says he doesn't think I should do anything like this until I have my debts paid. I'm saving my money though, the best I can. So...maybe I can do it.

[terri]

My husband is totally into it. :D

So, you know, if I'm gainfully employed we'll probably be there. He has a fellow wine-geek buddy in LA, too, so it's a virtual slam-dunk, if we can get the finances squared away. :roll:

Bah! Money!! I ask again: why couldn't we all have been born rich instead of so talented? :wink:

[Alison]

My husband is totally into it. :D

So, you know, if I'm gainfully employed we'll probably be there. He has a fellow wine-geek buddy in LA, too, so it's a virtual slam-dunk, if we can get the finances squared away. :roll:

Bah! Money!! I ask again: why couldn't we all have been born rich instead of so talented? :wink:

I hear ya. I do believe that after much arm twisting from several members who shall remain nameless that I along with my new roomate Hobbes will be attending, if as with the rest of you the money falls into place.

[photogoddess]

Can we get a poll of yes, no and maybe's? Its beginning to sound like Chase and I need to plan out some larger transportation options. Also, a poll of campers vs hotel dwellers so we can reserve enough accomodations. Puuuleeeeaaase!

[Alison]

Definite maybe for Aubrey and Alison and we would camp.

[Chase]

Ok, I put up a basic poll that should at least give us an idea of how many people plan on going, including those that aren't sure yet.

Hopefully it will help a little bit.

[Alison]

Well research all you want.. but when you're ready come to me... i will find you the best fare... ;)

Hey, does that stand for me as well? I can fly out of either Boston (Logan) or Manchester NH, which ever is cheaper.

[malachite]

I'll be there. I'm driving myself and camping out. Wonder if we'll have enough people to justify reserving camp sites if possible?

[voodoocat]

Group sites my friend...

[binfordtools]

I'm in,I'll be the short fat dude hanging out with the dinosaur in BANNING,our hanging on the back of photogoddess RV :wink:

[malachite]

I'm in,I'll be the short fat dude hanging out with the dinosaur in BANNING,our hanging on the back of photogoddess RV :wink:
Banning! ACK! :shock:

Sorry, we broke down in Banning earlier this year on our way to Fontana and spent 14 lovely hours in the parking lot of Auto Zone. Definitely in the top 3 of the worst trips I've ever had when it became apparent we had to stand guard to protect our stuff. But thanks to a recall notice in the mail the following day, Dodge paid for our whole stay in Banning :cheer:

There's a dinosaur in Banning?

[binfordtools]

Banning and Fontana is like going to Disneyland.In North Long Beach when you let your dog out to do his or her busness you stand guard.And you do not go out at night. 8)

[Jeff Canes]

I’m think about going, but I don’t camp!

[photogoddess]

I’m think about going, but I don’t camp!

My RV is full but I'm thinking that maybe we should get a motel room for people that don't want to camp and for showers. Any others interested in this option?

[Corry]

I might be interested in that.

[voodoocat]

I’m think about going, but I don’t camp!

My RV is full but I'm thinking that maybe we should get a motel room for people that don't want to camp and for showers. Any others interested in this option?
but all the fun is going to go on at the campsite around the campfire :P And us non wussies will have quicker access to the park ;P

[malachite]

Yeah, but we'll smell after a bit............. I like to camp but if there's a shower available, camping is so much more fun.

I'll bring an extra lawn chair for the campfire for any of the non-campers in trade for a shower :wink:

[terri]

What's wrong with taking part in the wholesome singalongs and weenie roasts by the campfire, then wimping out for a soft bed and hot shower? :P

Driving in is so much easier when carrying gear, I've dragged my backpack and tent a few times through the Atlanta airport and it's a bit of a pain. We might go the soft route (again as finances allow).

[photogoddess]

What's wrong with taking part in the wholesome singalongs and weenie roasts by the campfire, then wimping out for a soft bed and hot shower? :P

Driving in is so much easier when carrying gear, I've dragged my backpack and tent a few times through the Atlanta airport and it's a bit of a pain. We might go the soft route (again as finances allow).

Girlie - I like your style!!! :wink:

I'll be RVing it but I have a couple of 2 man tents that I'd loan out to long hauling campers if needed. :D

[aggiezach]

My gal and I are planning to fly out there. I would love to drive, but we have to be back at school on Monday... So we'll be flying into Ontario, CA and maybe renting a car or just hitching a ride with some nice forum member who wants to earn lots of cool points in my book! :wink:
I found a pretty good deal on airfare... about $180 for RT tickets... So hopefully that'll work out and we'll be there shooting bunches and hanging out with some awesome people! Word yo!

[Jeff Canes]

I’m think about going, but I don’t camp!

My RV is full but I'm thinking that maybe we should get a motel room for people that don't want to camp and for showers. Any others interested in this option?
but all the fun is going to go on at the campsite around the campfire :P And us non wussies will have quicker access to the park ;P

Are you thinking about camping at one the park’s campsite or a private one, http://www.nps.gov/jotr/pphtml/facilities.html the park website does not show a lodge, there are places to stay near by right?

[voodoocat]

There are a couple camgrounds inside the park that can accomodate group camping. There are toilets but no water. We have to bring in our own water and firewood for the bonfire.

I've got a few campfire songs up my sleeve for this occasion :D

[Alison]

I've got a few campfire songs up my sleeve for this occasion :D

I think I've changed my mind about coming.....

[photogoddess]

I've got a few campfire songs up my sleeve for this occasion :D

I think I've changed my mind about coming.....

Then I guess I shouldn't mention that I'm gonna try to learn to play the guitar before the trip either? :oops:

:LOL:

[Chase]

Better hurry! :)

[Alison]

I've got a few campfire songs up my sleeve for this occasion :D

I think I've changed my mind about coming.....

Then I guess I shouldn't mention that I'm gonna try to learn to play the guitar before the trip either? :oops:

:LOL:

No, no, guitar is good. I'm just not sure about Chad's singing :)

I am kidding. I love to sing and I'll be joining right in.

[Chase]

You say that NOW, but just wait until you hear the lyrics to the songs he'll be singing! :shock:

[voodoocat]

You say that NOW, but just wait until you hear the lyrics to the songs he'll be singing! :shock:
:LOL:

and when I sing it melts your wife's heart ;) I remember how much she liked my singing in Zion.

[Alison]

You say that NOW, but just wait until you hear the lyrics to the songs he'll be singing! :shock:

In that case he'll just have to send me the lyrics in advance!

[photogoddess]

Better hurry! :)

I need someone to teach me. Any volunteers?

[photogoddess]

You say that NOW, but just wait until you hear the lyrics to the songs he'll be singing! :shock:
:LOL:

and when I sing it melts your wife's heart ;) I remember how much she liked my singing in Zion.

:puke: We were actually hoping that you'd bring your violin this time. :P

[voodoocat]

You say that NOW, but just wait until you hear the lyrics to the songs he'll be singing! :shock:
:LOL:

and when I sing it melts your wife's heart ;) I remember how much she liked my singing in Zion.

:puke: We were actually hoping that you'd bring your violin this time. :P
oh come on... it's not that bad :P at least when i have a guitar. at least i can sing in key :P

[photogoddess]

You say that NOW, but just wait until you hear the lyrics to the songs he'll be singing! :shock:
:LOL:

and when I sing it melts your wife's heart ;) I remember how much she liked my singing in Zion.

:puke: We were actually hoping that you'd bring your violin this time. :P
oh come on... it's not that bad :P at least when i have a guitar. at least i can sing in key :P

You are freakin hysterical to be around but I can't remember your singin though. I know you're awesome on the violin. So, please bring it this time.

[Chase]

That's odd, I don't remember any singing either...hmm.

[voodoocat]

That's odd, I don't remember any singing either...hmm.
My voice is so soothing you fell asleep.

[photogoddess]

That's odd, I don't remember any singing either...hmm.
My voice is so soothing you fell asleep.

No one was soothed to sleep with you running around saying "I'm Spicaaaay"! We were all laughing our butts off! ;) :lmao:

[photogoddess]

Who else is bringing a guitar or other musical instrument?

[MDowdey]

Who else is bringing a guitar or other musical instrument?

if someone brings a guitar, ill play it for yall, but i cant bring it on the plane with me. and ill be goddamned if i check it with the luggage people...

md

[hobbes28]

Don't they have any pawn shops in the area???

[MDowdey]

Don't they have any pawn shops in the area???

im sure but i bet someone can bring a guitar, i hope the can, we can rock out in the desert.


md

[hobbes28]

I'm going to try and bring one but I'm not sure yet.

[MDowdey]

I'm going to try and bring one but I'm not sure yet.


do it. :lol:

md

[Alison]

I'm going to try and bring one but I'm not sure yet.


do it. :lol:

md

Great :roll: We'll have a tent, all our camera gear and a guitar. Guess who's gonna end up schleping that through the airport :wink: We'll need a recorder too for all this music.

[MDowdey]

I'm going to try and bring one but I'm not sure yet.


do it. :lol:

md

Great :roll: We'll have a tent, all our camera gear and a guitar. Guess who's gonna end up schleping that through the airport :wink: We'll need a recorder too for all this music.

man, we could put out the TPF fundraising CD....what a plan!!!!


md

[Jeff Canes]

I am little less that 50/50 on making this trip out west, but if I do so, it would likely be longer that just the weekend, more like a week and a haft. Think about flying in to San Francisco and out of LA. Also would like to go to Yosemite, Sequoia and Mono Lake. Unfortunately a lot of Yosemite and Sequoia does not reopen till after mid May.

Does any one know that the driving time in heavy traffic from Joshua Tree to LAX might be?

[photogoddess]

I am little less that 50/50 on making this trip out west, but if I do so, it would likely be longer that just the weekend, more like a week and a haft. Think about flying in to San Francisco and out of LA. Also would like to go to Yosemite, Sequoia and Mono Lake. Unfortunately a lot of Yosemite and Sequoia does not reopen till after mid May.

Does any one know that the driving time in heavy traffic from Joshua Tree to LAX might be?

Traffic from Joshua Tree to LAX varies depending on the day and time. It would help if us So. Cal. locals answer this question if we knew what date/time you were talking about.

Jeff, there is so much to do here and most things are 2 hours or so from Long Beach. Just about 2 hours in any direction will take you somewhere interesting. San Diego and Mexico are about 2 hours, so is Joshua Tree. Santa Barbara is about the same. If you don't take the scenic route, San Francisco is about 6 hours from here.

[Chase]

I have a guitar I'll bring.

[photogoddess]

I'm going to try and bring one but I'm not sure yet.


do it. :lol:

md

Great :roll: We'll have a tent, all our camera gear and a guitar. Guess who's gonna end up schleping that through the airport :wink: We'll need a recorder too for all this music.

I have my guitar and 2 of my kids have them - all acoustic. I can bring all 3 of them all if needed. I also have 2 or 3 two person tents, sleeping bags and air mattresses that I can loan out since I'm bringing the RV. First PMs to me can borrow them which should save a few of you from having to shlep them through the airport. I may have more stuff but since we've been RVing it for a while, I need to take inventory. :mrgreen:

[photogoddess]

I have a guitar I'll bring.

Any chance you could show me how to play mine before the trip? :roll:

[Corry]

Ok, a little more info on this trip. Is someone planning to pick us up from the airport or something? Or will I have to rent a car. Cuz that's a big one for me. If my boyfriend doesn't end up being able to make it, I'm screwed, cuz if I drive I'll end up in like, Las Vegas or somewhere. I'll get so lost. I plan on having my Digital Rebel by then. But knowing me, I'll fill up a couple of memory cards, REALLY fast! What can I do about that???? Any ideas???

[photogoddess]

Ok, a little more info on this trip. Is someone planning to pick us up from the airport or something? Or will I have to rent a car. Cuz that's a big one for me. If my boyfriend doesn't end up being able to make it, I'm screwed, cuz if I drive I'll end up in like, Las Vegas or somewhere. I'll get so lost. I plan on having my Digital Rebel by then. But knowing me, I'll fill up a couple of memory cards, REALLY fast! What can I do about that???? Any ideas???

We're picking up MD around 1pm on Thursday 3/17 at the Ontario CA airport. It would make things MUCH easier if Chase and I could get the "out of towners" on the same date.

[Corry]

Thanks, that helps a lot! Gotta plan things! I'm just a smidgen from saying "I don't care how I get there, but I'M GOING!!!!" Give me a day or two and you'll probably have a definate from me!

[Alison]

I'm going to try and bring one but I'm not sure yet.


do it. :lol:

md

Great :roll: We'll have a tent, all our camera gear and a guitar. Guess who's gonna end up schleping that through the airport :wink: We'll need a recorder too for all this music.

I have my guitar and 2 of my kids have them - all acoustic. I can bring all 3 of them all if needed. I also have 2 or 3 two person tents, sleeping bags and air mattresses that I can loan out since I'm bringing the RV. First PMs to me can borrow them which should save a few of you from having to shlep them through the airport. I may have more stuff but since we've been RVing it for a while, I need to take inventory. :mrgreen:

See your PM, hope we are on the chosen list :)

[photogoddess]

Corry and Alison have dibs on the 2 tents, sleeping bags and mattresses. If I have or can borrow any additional stuff, I'll keep you all posted.

[Chase]

If we can arrange to get people arriving as close together as possible, I'll be happy to play taxi as much as possible :)

[photogoddess]

If we can arrange to get people arriving as close together as possible, I'll be happy to play taxi as much as possible :)

Me too if we need a 2nd vehicle. :)

[Corry]

You guys are great!

[Scott WRG Editor]

Where is Joshua Tree? I would like to go but can't commit to anything yet.

[Corry]

It's in Southern California. Um...here:
http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=M7tNO.p_0TqT&csz=joshua+tree+CA&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=

[photogoddess]

Where is Joshua Tree? I would like to go but can't commit to anything yet.

Southern California desert. Somewhat close to Palm Springs.

[Scott WRG Editor]

Cool, I can kill two birds with one stone, I've been wanting to goto the Palm Springs Air Museum. Might be a better chance of going now (I can write it off as a business expense, maybe).

[Corry]

Sweet! :)

[manda]

I really should be at this thing, hey?

Im planning on being in Europe a bit later than March, but...

hmmm

[Corry]

Oooh ooh ooh!!!! Come on everyone! It's time to hook Manda in!!!!!!

[MDowdey]

I really should be at this thing, hey?

Im planning on being in Europe a bit later than March, but...

hmmm

that would truly be the pinnacle of my existance if you showed up. please? for me? your old friend?

md

[Corry]

Well, I'm not feeling any less nervous about travelling alone (I haven't gotten Erik convinced yet...still working on it) but I will regret it FOREVER if I miss this. So I submitted my vacation day requests at work today!!!!

[Chase]

Awesome!!!

Now all you have to do is book that ticket! ;)

[Corry]

Yup...but I'd like to do a little more convincing on my boyfriend, and hopefully he'll go...and that way we can just buy them at the same time.

[Chase]

That would definitely make things easier :)

[Corry]

So...some questions...where will we shower? What will we eat? Do we each need to go to a grocery store somewhere and pick up some camp food? Will there be electricity anywhere out there? And I know this is a weird one, but will I have cell phone reception?

[Chase]

Shower is going to be an issue...not sure how we're handling that one yet. There may be at least a couple of people that get a hotel room, but they aren't very close....so, we'll see.

We'll go on a major shopping spree for food and supplies. Photogoddess is going to bring her motorhome, that will give us access to power, stove, etc. There is a pretty good chance you'll get some cell signal. I think Photogoddess and I are going to go out there on a scouting trip in the next couple of weeks and then I can tell you for sure.

[Corry]

Sweet. Ya know, we could stock up on those little tree car freshners and rub ourselves with em every morning! Guess I'll be stocking up on baby wipes or something...so I can get at least a little clean! I can't STAND being dirty!

[voodoocat]

What we did last time was Photogoddess went to Costco to get the food for everyone. Then we divided the cost which came out to something like $30/person for 4 days worth of food. We also had a ton of leftovers.

For this trip I think the menu is going to be pretty basic. Hamburgers, hotdogs, sandwiches and lots of snacks. We can figure that out closer to the trip.

As far as electricity and showers go. We're going to have to find hookups for the RV. Still working on those details.

[voodoocat]

Sweet. Ya know, we could stock up on those little tree car freshners and rub ourselves with em every morning! Guess I'll be stocking up on baby wipes or something...so I can get at least a little clean! I can't STAND being dirty!
I'll use a shower if ones there... but I can clean myself w/o a shower if need be. Heck maybe I'll just get one of those solar showers.

[Corry]

Cool...I've got tons more questions, but I can't think of em all right now. I'll post em as I remember em!

[Corry]

What's a solar shower?

[photogoddess]

It's a special bag that you fill with water and hang it in the sun. The sun heats the water so that your shower isn't cold. In a public camp ground, you generally shower with a swim suit on. I had a couple of these back when we used to camp and they work well. I'll keep on the look out for them next time I'm at my storage garage. The only problem that I'm thinking is that most of the campgrounds don't have water. You have to haul it in.

More likely is that in the middle of the day when the sun is the most harsh, we will be taking turns getting a shower in the rv or at a hotel. We will know more once Chase and I do our scouting mission. Keep you all posted. :D

[Alison]

Question for those providing airport pickup:

Is everyone flying in on Thursday? I had originally thought Friday but I don't want us to be the only ones on Friday. Also, when are people flying out on Monday? Just want to book tickets that make it easiest for everyone.

All of a sudden it doesn't seem all that far off! And Corry, bring a hat, some wet wipes and deoderant and you're all set :)

[Corry]

Sweeeeeet. I couldn't sleep last night cuz I kept thinking about stuff about the trip...mostly ways to word it when I ask my boyfriend again tonight!

[photogoddess]

Chase and I are doing the pick ups. Matt is coming in at 1pm on Thursday. Since his return flight leaves at 1030am on Monday, we were hoping that most would come in about the same time so we could get an early start out to Joshua Tree. If we need to make a Friday trip to the airport, one of us will do that too.

[LizM]

Have to see what my money situation is closer to time .... and if it matches my kids spring break from school!!!

[MyOwnPath]

I may join. Good choice of location, very pretty there. Why did you pick this spot over others? Just curious. If (IF!) I come, I'll be coming from Oregon and would offer a ride (minivan) to anyone on the way.

--Trav--

[Luminosity]

Ok ... I've given a little more thought to this and , at the moment , I am researching the flights costs etc. Waiting for travel agent to call me back at the moment actually.

Tentatively planning on perhaps going to New Orleans , then Savannah , then Joshua Tree ..... before heading off the San Fran and Canada.....

( oh boyyy this aint gonna be cheap :LOL: ).

[Alison]

Ok ... I've given a little more thought to this and , at the moment , I am researching the flights costs etc. Waiting for travel agent to call me back at the moment actually.

Tentatively planning on perhaps going to New Orleans , then Savannah , then Joshua Tree ..... before heading off the San Fran and Canada.....

( oh boyyy this aint gonna be cheap :LOL: ).

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[hobbes28]

Ok ... I've given a little more thought to this and , at the moment , I am researching the flights costs etc. Waiting for travel agent to call me back at the moment actually.

Tentatively planning on perhaps going to New Orleans , then Savannah , then Joshua Tree ..... before heading off the San Fran and Canada.....

( oh boyyy this aint gonna be cheap :LOL: ).

I think the list of people signing up for JT is about to increase dramatically.

[Karalee]

Ok ... I've given a little more thought to this and , at the moment , I am researching the flights costs etc. Waiting for travel agent to call me back at the moment actually.

Tentatively planning on perhaps going to New Orleans , then Savannah , then Joshua Tree ..... before heading off the San Fran and Canada.....

( oh boyyy this aint gonna be cheap :LOL: ).

I think the list of people signing up for JT is about to increase dramatically.

And I think some who have already signed up are doing their praise jesus dances ;)

[gecko]

i love the desert, i spent sooo much time out in the high cali desert


sometimes i miss it a lot

so how would this work exactly?

everyone camps out?

[Karalee]

Ok ... I've given a little more thought to this and , at the moment , I am researching the flights costs etc. Waiting for travel agent to call me back at the moment actually.

Tentatively planning on perhaps going to New Orleans , then Savannah , then Joshua Tree ..... before heading off the San Fran and Canada.....

( oh boyyy this aint gonna be cheap :LOL: ).

Erm.... Montana is on the way to Canuck Land chick ;)

[Luminosity]

Honey , ya betcha sweet ass I'ma see my sessay kiwi ;).

Ya not gonna come to JT ?

And :LOL: @ ya's ^^^ up there ...yeah they'll be comin to see me pull my fugly faces .... just doin my bit for tourism :shock:

[Karalee]

Well you know your funny n **** :lmao:

Imma try make it to JT,so Ill give ya a piggy back ride to Montana :P ;)

[gecko]

so is anyone going to tell me how this works?!

[photogoddess]

so is anyone going to tell me how this works?!


HAHA - Sure. March 18th - March 21st 2005 we are having a photo get together in Joshua Tree Ca. Chase and I are doing some pick ups and transportation. Most of us will be camping since the nearest hotel is 40 miles away. We are trying to coordinate airport pickups for Thursday afternoon. Preferably at the Ontario airport. Someof us will be heading back early Monday morning so that a VIP can make his flight home on time. What else do you need to know.

[gecko]

well i suppose that covers it for the most part

i mean i could get to cali, but after that i had no clue
will there be a method of gettingback to the airport if some of you are leaving?

[photogoddess]

We're hoping to keep the flights around the same time to avoid multiple trips.

[gecko]

will there be a water supply out at the camp site?

[photogoddess]

Chase and I are going to do a scouting mission to see what will be available at the camp site. Keep you all posted on the details after we have a chance to do that. :D

[gecko]

so how many people are planning on it as of now? say "I am"

[photogoddess]

pick me! ;)

[Alison]

so how many people are planning on it as of now? say "I am"

From the poll above it looks like 12 people + 9 undecided.

[photogoddess]

I wonder if anyone is coming that had previously voted for no or maybe. :scratch:

[Alison]

I wonder if anyone is coming that had previously voted for no or maybe. :scratch:

LOL! Sounds like it's time for a new poll :)

[photogoddess]

I wonder if anyone is coming that had previously voted for no or maybe. :scratch:

LOL! Sounds like it's time for a new poll :)

Well mods and admins... can we get one? ;)

[MDowdey]

:::walks out of forum quietly while whistling... :::


md

[gecko]

i didnt mean a poll
i meant a new "i am"

theres so much chatter i cant even imagine going back and checking

[Jovian]

ok, im way late here....but I haven't been on a vacation in forever...so... I need to. nor have I been that far away from home.... I'm 20, I turn 21 March 19th....dammit.... I have to go. Count me in... one way or another, count me in on this one. I'm going to go look at flights right now. I'll be at the airport thursday. One way or another.

-Andrew-

[Jeff Canes]

It’s the budget-cutting time of year at work and if I survive the cutting. Will make the trip for sure. Despite the fact I don’t liking camping.

[Corry]

Hey, guess what???? I haven't convinced my boyfriend to come YET...he's won't say yes yet because of school and work. Well, I just looked it up on his university website, and his spring break is MARCH 12-20!!!!! So...I just have to convince him to skip ONE day of school, OR figure out a way to fly home on Sunday evening (anyone gonna be going back to the airport sunday????) and to request ONE weekend off from work! Yay! My chances just got a little higher! Just had to brag about that to someone. I'm kinda happy. Let's see if it gets me anywhere.

[aggiezach]

YAY! :D

[steve817]

Question, How easy do you think it would be to find everyone at the park? I'm thinking about flying into Palm Springs if I go.

[Jovian]

we'll be the big group of nerds with cameras, dancing naked around a cactus....

[Jeff Canes]

we'll be the big group of nerds with cameras, dancing naked around a cactus....

:LOL: I ain’t dancing naked.

[japmula]

Hey Guys, looks like 2 out of the 9 campgrounds have water and toilets? http://www.joshua.tree.national-park.com/camping.htm

Btw, I'm definitely considering this trip!! Sounds like so much fun! But kinda like Corry, I need to know all the logistics before booking tickets, you know? :roll:

Like not being bale to shower...lol...that might be sort of a problem for me. My hair gets unbelievably greasy by the end of the day! Hahaha....something you guys do not wanna see! =P

And so it's definitely 3/17-3/21? b/c originally, I think it was 3/18-3/21.

I told my bf about it and he's totally interested in visiting JT, but he has all those logistical questions too, like is this more of like ppl. justy planning? or more of an organized event, like you know, with structure? He says he wouldn't mind driving 40 miles to get to a bed...lol. Me thinks that might kinda suck for 4 nights. Ummm...but yea, showers are a concern for him too.

Dude, I would totally be into the solar shower thing if possible...hahaha. I'm a city gal so never heard of those before.....very creative! And funny! =P And as I said we're "city" folks, 4 nights in the desert in some what sounds like hard core camping conditions....hehe, I don't know if we'd make it! =P

[Corry]

I'm DEFINATLY going (see title! :)) But, yeah..I'm curious about all these things...Chase and a bunch of others from that area will be doing a scouting trip and let us know the answers to our questions!

[voodoocat]

Solar shower is just a big bag that gets hot in the sun. Since we're in the desert our chance of sun is pretty high :P
We'll have more specifics after the scouting trip. I'm sending Malachite to meet up with the freaks from socal to keep an eye on things ;)

After the scouting trip we need to book some group sites asap. That is spring break weekend and JT is pretty popular.

[Corry]

BTW, this is probably a stupid question, but exactly what is the weather like there in March????

[voodoocat]

80's in the day and mid 40s at night. on average.

[Corry]

Cool, thanks...so bring t-shirts AND sweatshirt, huh???

[voodoocat]

Yup and a decent sleeping bag that will keep you warm. There still is a chance the night time could get down to the upper 30's

[Corry]

Yup and a decent sleeping bag that will keep you warm. There still is a chance the night time could get down to the upper 30's

Well, thanks to the wonderful Photogoddess, I will have a sleeping bag waiting for me!!! Good thing, too, cuz I would have NO idea where I would get my hands on the camping gear I would need!

[voodoocat]

Yup and a decent sleeping bag that will keep you warm. There still is a chance the night time could get down to the upper 30's

Well, thanks to the wonderful Photogoddess, I will have a sleeping bag waiting for me!!! Good thing, too, cuz I would have NO idea where I would get my hands on the camping gear I would need!
I'll be bringing a bunch of gear too :D
And I may be a city boy but I've done my fair share of camping... camping, even with flush toilets is not roughing it :P Hike 2 miles with all your gear, to a place that restricts campfires and that's roughing it :P

[Alison]

Yup and a decent sleeping bag that will keep you warm. There still is a chance the night time could get down to the upper 30's

Well, thanks to the wonderful Photogoddess, I will have a sleeping bag waiting for me!!! Good thing, too, cuz I would have NO idea where I would get my hands on the camping gear I would need!
I'll be bringing a bunch of gear too :D
And I may be a city boy but I've done my fair share of camping... camping, even with flush toilets is not roughing it :P Hike 2 miles with all your gear, to a place that restricts campfires and that's roughing it :P

Portage your canoe twice into the Boundary Waters in MN, dig your own toilet, that's camping :)

[voodoocat]

Yup and a decent sleeping bag that will keep you warm. There still is a chance the night time could get down to the upper 30's

Well, thanks to the wonderful Photogoddess, I will have a sleeping bag waiting for me!!! Good thing, too, cuz I would have NO idea where I would get my hands on the camping gear I would need!
I'll be bringing a bunch of gear too :D
And I may be a city boy but I've done my fair share of camping... camping, even with flush toilets is not roughing it :P Hike 2 miles with all your gear, to a place that restricts campfires and that's roughing it :P

Portage your canoe twice into the Boundary Waters in MN, dig your own toilet, that's camping :)
But I'm sure you were allowed to have a campfire :P Camping is so boring without a campfire.

[MDowdey]

Yup and a decent sleeping bag that will keep you warm. There still is a chance the night time could get down to the upper 30's

Well, thanks to the wonderful Photogoddess, I will have a sleeping bag waiting for me!!! Good thing, too, cuz I would have NO idea where I would get my hands on the camping gear I would need!
I'll be bringing a bunch of gear too :D
And I may be a city boy but I've done my fair share of camping... camping, even with flush toilets is not roughing it :P Hike 2 miles with all your gear, to a place that restricts campfires and that's roughing it :P

Portage your canoe twice into the Boundary Waters in MN, dig your own toilet, that's camping :)
But I'm sure you were allowed to have a campfire :P Camping is so boring without a campfire.

hike an uncharted mountain and get stuck in the snow with a tshirt on for 8 hours until a helicopter rescues you...thats rouging it...so sit down.



md

[voodoocat]

Yup and a decent sleeping bag that will keep you warm. There still is a chance the night time could get down to the upper 30's

Well, thanks to the wonderful Photogoddess, I will have a sleeping bag waiting for me!!! Good thing, too, cuz I would have NO idea where I would get my hands on the camping gear I would need!
I'll be bringing a bunch of gear too :D
And I may be a city boy but I've done my fair share of camping... camping, even with flush toilets is not roughing it :P Hike 2 miles with all your gear, to a place that restricts campfires and that's roughing it :P

Portage your canoe twice into the Boundary Waters in MN, dig your own toilet, that's camping :)
But I'm sure you were allowed to have a campfire :P Camping is so boring without a campfire.

hike an uncharted mountain and get stuck in the snow with a tshirt on for 8 hours until a helicopter rescues you...thats rouging it...so sit down.



md
No, thats just being dumb :P

[MDowdey]

Yup and a decent sleeping bag that will keep you warm. There still is a chance the night time could get down to the upper 30's

Well, thanks to the wonderful Photogoddess, I will have a sleeping bag waiting for me!!! Good thing, too, cuz I would have NO idea where I would get my hands on the camping gear I would need!
I'll be bringing a bunch of gear too :D
And I may be a city boy but I've done my fair share of camping... camping, even with flush toilets is not roughing it :P Hike 2 miles with all your gear, to a place that restricts campfires and that's roughing it :P

Portage your canoe twice into the Boundary Waters in MN, dig your own toilet, that's camping :)
But I'm sure you were allowed to have a campfire :P Camping is so boring without a campfire.

hike an uncharted mountain and get stuck in the snow with a tshirt on for 8 hours until a helicopter rescues you...thats rouging it...so sit down.



md
No, thats just being dumb :P

how did i know you were gonna say that? it wasnt so dumb at the time... :wink:



d

[Jeff Canes]

I am foreseeing a little logistic problem. Getting for FLA to Cali and back with the flowing camera bags, tripod, sleeping bag, and standard travel gear

[voodoocat]

There's always the ship method... you could ship the stuff out to Tammy or Chase before the trip and they can ship it back to you after.

[Alison]

I am foreseeing a little logistic problem. Getting for FLA to Cali and back with the flowing camera bags, tripod, sleeping bag, and standard travel gear

Bring an assistant to carry your bags for you, that's what I am doing :D

But, seriously, they have carts and stuff at the airports so you could use one of those when you unload the car and there will be people on the other end to help you out.

[photogoddess]

Or ship to Chase or I. We can make sure everyone is matched up with their stuff when we get there. :P

[Alison]

Or ship to Chase or I. We can make sure everyone is matched up with their stuff when we get there. :P

Are you and Chad really the same person????? :shock:

[voodoocat]

Or ship to Chase or I. We can make sure everyone is matched up with their stuff when we get there. :P

Are you and Chad really the same person????? :shock:
:lmao:

[Jovian]

Yeah, I was worrying about the whole sleeping bag/tent/crap situation....but I didn't even think about shipping stuff to you guys. That makes things easier. I am so excited about this trip...

[pilgrim]

wow, i cant believe i just read all of that :shock:
hmm, i wonder what it will cost to fly from Victoria....??
maybe i could hitch... ;)

[Karalee]

Um, just adding PILGRIMS name to the list ;)


You WILL be there :P

[Corry]

Hey...you guys had your scouting trip, so where's out scouting report! :) (and teaser pics!)

[photogoddess]

We had a really long & productive day yesterday but still need to compile the information for your viewing pleasure. Tonight my pretties - tonight! :LOL: